KRISHNAMURTI : Dialogue on Death - Part 5.

mtierra Says:

Nov 30, 2011 - This is wild -- "the moment we experience the truth of experience i.e. pleasure and pain, that self awareness is apart from the stream. The stream is ignorance but ceases to exist the moment it realizes itself. That is the moment of freedom.

vijayanand875 Says:

May 21, 2011 - Okay,wow...The stream,a,b,c,x,y,z....what I've had learned past 25years from the fools and sages Bind everything throw somewhere..when I listen to my heart not with machine minds Just your deep heart there is love,I can journey without destination just Love hiding from,,,,food,shelter,Religion,work, politics,society,technology, fear,books,war,Inequality,competition,jealousy,greedy,success,failure,confusion.....I got it I GOT IT Ooooohhhh........

rjirene Says:

Apr 13, 2011 - if you listen an inquiry when he say the stream means you have to die to the things of life want for nothing live simple the more you want in life the more you chase and that where problems will continue to exist in life an death the stream will continue thats where reincarnation comes in . all this that's going on will continue. in death you as the spirit and soul can step out of that stream in the spirit you are in wholeness without the body what we have in body we have in spirit.

MyRavand Says:

Mar 21, 2011 - THANKS.

Focusedthought Says:

Feb 22, 2011 - What He wants to say Is, If one man steps out of the stream It can Change. The stream Is something like purgatory or the society we live in today stress, misery, hope, partial happiness etc . Basically he is saying the same thing as peter Joseph in a sense. you will not know our true meaning until we take off the blinders and get rid of the restraints on society today. This guy is not genius he is actually a reflection of the way we all should be If we were strong enough to think our way OUT! .

selfscienz Says:

Sep 12, 2010 - If we said he was just clever and cunning at speaking, or just had a lot of confidence. We can safely say most people lack how he felt towards human beings. Also we can safety say he had the ability to instantly move u when you heard him for the first time. Go back to the first time you heard him. There was an instant / instinctual acceptance. That is the unmoved mover, every one else is still moving, learning more, bringing new techniques. Only once in a blue moon do we get an unmoved mover.

urawat1960 Says:

Aug 23, 2010 - if ur already buried with ur pre dicisions, u will never understand the truth. for that u need to have a brain of a child, totally innocent and without prejudice.

urawat1960 Says:

Aug 23, 2010 - ideas r corrupted cause it comes from brain speak and listen from ur heart and soul  ideas ar prejudiced

Sunny066 Says:

Aug 10, 2010 - heh..i think i get it...:p... the stream analogy i think just confused them....very hard for them to understand cause they bring pre-concieved notions onto it.... without just following the basic reasoning. eheh its like following a Zen dialogue.... ur kinda confused but u know its getting at something.. just dont know what

RoninATX Says:

Jun 22, 2010 - He's frustrated because the others are trying to do what humans do best - categorize, rationalize, bucket-ize - it's like they understand about... 80% of the concept, and are worrying themselves with the semantics of closing up that last 20% so it's all a nice clean analogy - which misses the point completely. So he's getting caught up in having to spell it out, rather than presenting the goal.

Geeeeoheffeff Says:

Apr 22, 2010 - A marker and a large piece of construction paper with which to mind map or draw diagrams could really have helped clarify things I think.

321Aceking Says:

Mar 31, 2010 - ya there scared to just listen ha ha~ I just wish they would let go ha ha~ If you kinda let go it works out you say ohh ha ha~ there it was all along ha ha like the wind blows just right and that leaf swirls down to the ground right in front of you ha ha ha~ and you are like wow look t that ha ha ha~ Like that was just the hole world in 5 seconds ha ha ha~

theseanze Says:

Mar 3, 2010 - If the idea is corrupted as soon as it is put into words, why are you bothering to have a dialogue? If the truth can be pointed out, why can't you meet people halfway without speaking down to their level? As 02javis says, the only difference between being seen as insane or genius is being able to connect/communicate with others. Krishnamurti and most Indian gurus frustrate me to no end sometimes with this expectation of everyone to climb up their mountain.

MrSkinless Says:

Sep 6, 2009 - i think sir you explained it to me easier than he was able to.

02javis Says:

Jul 31, 2009 - yes but, If I understand what nobody understands, because Iam out of the stream, everyone would say Im crazy.

02javis Says:

Jul 31, 2009 - they want to krishnamorti to say in the stream there is wisdom or god in other words.

poeavor Says:

Apr 18, 2009 - Yes

poeavor Says:

Apr 18, 2009 - True

poeavor Says:

Apr 18, 2009 - What kind of wax the monk with glasses uses in his head? He is not following...

vasilikikalkani Says:

Apr 1, 2009 - I don't see frustration from him at all, I see compassion. And everyone else in the room really do need a dogma to hold on to. Letting go of identity and the concept of Oneness brings fear and anger.

ruaryscool Says:

Mar 15, 2009 - well said.. I dont know if that is what he is saying but good insight!

Subutubiata Says:

Mar 1, 2009 - A is a bipolarised manifestation of fundamental energy, he is divided and in division. Dynamic stillness (insight) produces an entirely new factor - a link with the unconditioned energy beyond the polarisation of subject and object. The minute you 'think' of this energy , or try to describe it, it's gone, your back in the stream, with your insight rapidly turning into a religion\belief system. Is this what he's saying...?

mytv80 Says:

Dec 30, 2008 - the old hindu dude with the glasses and the white dude shouldn't talk at all..they're lost along with everyone else in that room!

TheGrossUncle Says:

Dec 4, 2008 - The listeners really want a dogma from K...

Graeme737 Says:

Sep 26, 2008 - being true to your self and not following the path that is laid before you is mans salvation. that is the point he is trying to explain. Its a message of self realization.